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SVG and FastBack for Firefox

Say hello to SVG.
I’m very excited about DSVG. Having AJAX, DSVG/DHTML in Firefox is a big step forward.
The one last thing that Open Standards for Web should have is some way to manage sound.

It’s the last real thing that Marcomedia’s Flash has on higher level.
Ok, there are also great tools for Flash,but hey! For DHTML there is Alladyn which has it’s Animation module. If I’ll find some time, I’d like to update Alladyn to next version (with SVG and XHTML, plugins and RealTime module in). I believe that the time of Alladyn 2.0 is now.

FastBack patch is upgraded day by day so I’m waiting for some more “stable” version before releasing next nightlies with this patch. I moved them from libgart to cairo, and following Boris’s testcase switched optimization flag from -O2 to -Os.

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  1. RafałR says

    Masz walnięty link do Alladyna :)

  2. gandalf says

    tnx.

  3. Rifleman says

    “FastBack patch is upgraded day by day so I’m waiting for some more “stable” version before releasing next nightlies with this patch.”
    Czy znaczy to, ze dzisiaj nie bedzie nowego buildu ?
    Bo na forum mozilla.pl cos o tym wspominales.

  4. gandalf says

    raczej nie. Choc… zobaczymy jak z czasem bede stal. Chcialbym zeby Windowsowy tez byl juz na Cairo a nie GDI+

  5. Steve Chapel says

    “The one last thing that Open Standards for Web should have is some way to manage sound.”

    I use . Seems standard enough to me! I just wish browsers would be smart enough to play .wav and .aiff files without opening a helper app: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92110

  6. Steve Chapel says

    Hmm.. I guess that should be <a href=”sound.wav”>

    Maybe your software should strip HTML or provide a preview…

  7. RafałR says

    Jaka jest różnica między Cairo a GDI+?

  8. gandalf says

    Steve: compare it to how Flash supports sound. You can set speed, timeframes, outpout channels, loop sound, fade in, fade out… a lot of tools to create multimedia presentation.

  9. gandalf says

    RafalR: GDI+ to system tylko dla windows, Cairo jest cross-platformowy. Mozilla bedzie odchodzic o wsparcia dla GDI na rzecz Cairo.

  10. Steve Chapel says

    Sorry… I took the statement “The one last thing that Open Standards for Web should have is some way to manage sound.” as implying that there is no standard way to manage sound at all. For the fancy stuff you describe, I suppose Flash and Java are all that are currently up to those tasks. You’re saying you want SVG to have the same abilities?

  11. quiris says

    Z tym mitycznym Alladynem 2 to tak jak z Duke Nukem Forever :P

  12. gandalf says

    Steve: Not SVG itself, but W3C should have standard for rich sound. Having this we would have fully free substitution for Flash (JS+DOM+SVG+XML+Some_Sound_Standard).

  13. Rifleman says

    ‘RafalR: GDI+ to system tylko dla windows, Cairo jest cross-platformowy. Mozilla bedzie odchodzic o wsparcia dla GDI na rzecz Cairo.”
    EEEeee, tylko czy nie bedzie ta multiplatformowosc okupiona wolniejszym startem oraz/lub dzialaniem?

  14. Brego says

    We want Alladyn 2! :)
    It would be just so sweet to have it with SVG and stuff :>

  15. Nerf says

    In XHTML 2.0 there should be sound support.

    IMO Flash features like sound looping are typical examples of overflow of form over content in WWW. They are unnecessary.

  16. gandalf says

    Nerf: for web pages, maybe. For web applications (www.2advanced.com?) are important.

  17. RafałR says

    Rifleman: Właśnie o różnice wydajnościowe mi chodzi :)
    Bo crossplatformowość i tak już w Mozilli mamy, bo przecież SVG jest i pod Linuksem i pod Windowsem :)

  18. PablO says

    “I believe that the time of Alladyn 2.0 is now.”
    Tak tak, już to słyszeliśmy ;]



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